07 VF39 WRX vs. Stage 2 methed Cobalt SS.

**iRace559** · 10-18-2007 06:25 AM

I was just curious as to how the two would stack up. My friend has a Cobalt SS/SC with an intake and a downpipe currently. But he has a pulley/injectors/catback/meth on the way.

My mods are:
-SPT Catback
-Megan Racing Catless DP
-SPT Intake/Heatsheild
-Cobb L/W Crank Pulley
-Walbro 255 Fuel Pump
-VF39 Turbo
-STI Top Mount
-Perrin Custom Acessport Maps

**Sinister** · 10-18-2007 06:30 AM

lol... you should slam him bud.

off the line the AWD will take him if you can launch (look at 3-5k slip method on here)

And then the upgraded turbo should keep you pulling.

**jmp2006** · 10-18-2007 06:38 AM

Race him and find out. If you lose you lose. No big deal.

**Sinister** · 10-18-2007 07:40 AM

Definitely, always race from a stop though.. AWD Traction > all else.

**06wrx4me** · 10-18-2007 08:05 AM

You'll beat him bad. I have a stage 2 06 and was at the track racing a stage 2 cobalt with tons of bolt ons,aftermarket clutch, drag radials, LSD, etc, he ran a 14.5 to my 13.8. Guy worked at a Chevy dealership, was mid 40's and after a few runs wanted to know what the heck I was driving

and how much money I had in it. Shoulda seen his face when I told him it was just an exhaust and an AP that cost me $1000 total.

He was even more mad when he found out I paid the same as he did for my car.

**DTR rex** · 10-19-2007 04:28 PM

From a dig you should waste him, but I wouldn't be surprised he hung with you or beat you from a roll. With the mods you named minus meth they trap 103+ so who knows.

**RealDealTarheel** · 10-19-2007 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by iRace559

I was just curious as to how the two would stack up. My friend has a Cobalt SS/SC with an intake and a downpipe currently. But he has a pulley/injectors/catback/meth on the way.

My mods are:
-SPT Catback
-Megan Racing Catless DP
-SPT Intake/Heatsheild
-Cobb L/W Crank Pulley
-Walbro 255 Fuel Pump
-VF39 Turbo
-STI Top Mount
-Perrin Custom Acessport Maps

What size pulley is he going with and is he smart enough to invest in DR's and mounts? Cobalts are wheel hopping wonders without mounts, and without DR's they'll never put down what power they make owing to the awesomeness that is FWD. Find out the answers to those questions and I can give you a better idea of what his car will run.

Edit: Is your buddy going to take his Cobalt to an experienced tuner with HP Tuners to get all those mods dialed in for his car? You said injectors so I assume he is going with the 60# injectors vice the 42 that come with Stage 2 so he's either setting up for a solid 12 second car or a blown engine.

**subz** · 10-19-2007 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by 06wrx4me

You'll beat him bad. I have a stage 2 06 and was at the track racing a stage 2 cobalt with tons of bolt ons,aftermarket clutch, drag radials, LSD, etc, he ran a 14.5 to my 13.8. Guy worked at a Chevy dealership, was mid 40's and after a few runs wanted to know what the heck I was driving

and how much money I had in it. Shoulda seen his face when I told him it was just an exhaust and an AP that cost me $1000 total.

He was even more mad when he found out I paid the same as he did for my car.

he ran a 14.5 with a stage 2 cobalt ss????

i thought they ran 14.4 stock?

**RealDealTarheel** · 10-19-2007 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by subz

he ran a 14.5 with a stage 2 cobalt ss????

i thought they ran 14.4 stock?

Times vary by driver, and a Stage 2 Cobalt can run high 13's. They can be incredibly difficult to launch, especially on stock tires. Wheel hop is also a huge factor in their times. Wheel hop is so bad in Cobalt's that GM put out a tech bulletin to void warranties of cars with broken transmissions, much in the same way SOA did.

**subz** · 10-19-2007 05:37 PM

so im guessin kid he raced didnt know how to shift or nethin haha

**RealDealTarheel** · 10-19-2007 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by subz

so im guessin kid he raced didnt know how to shift or nethin haha

Meh, could be alot of things. CA's awesome gas, or elevation, or temp, or driver error.

**subz** · 10-19-2007 07:13 PM

car should be running 13.7ish atleast .. has to be driver error .. you are from japan? thats awesome

**DTR rex** · 10-20-2007 12:20 AM

Originally Posted by subz

he ran a 14.5 with a stage 2 cobalt ss????

i thought they ran 14.4 stock?

It all depends on the driver.

Cobalt SS with those mods is an easy 13sec car. If not on the stock tires probably mid 13's with traps in the 105mph area.

**RealDealTarheel** · 10-20-2007 01:02 AM

Originally Posted by subz

car should be running 13.7ish atleast .. has to be driver error .. you are from japan? thats awesome

Not really. Wheel hop is a biznatch and traction is at a premium on that car. DR's should cure that guy's E.T.
I am not from Japan, but I do live here for now. Japan is not awesome IMO, it is the Suck.

Originally Posted by DTR rex

It all depends on the driver.

Cobalt SS with those mods is an easy 13sec car. If not on the stock tires probably mid 13's with traps in the 105mph area.

Not on stock tires, I wouldn't consider it an "Easy" 13 sec car. It has the power sure, but putting it down is not so easy on the Cobalts. With the above mentioned jello motor and transaxle mounts as a problem they wheel hop like there's no tomorrow. Cobalts are not easy to drive to their best times and regularly perform below expectations due to traction issues and wheel hop.