05 WRX Stage 2 vs. 01 Mustang GT w/mods
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This is a discussion on 05 WRX Stage 2 vs. 01 Mustang GT w/mods within the Comparison: WRX vs World forums, part of the Community - Meet other Enthusiasts category; I was a little nervous about this one since GT's have pretty good midrange power but here is how it ...

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    05 WRX Stage 2 vs. 01 Mustang GT w/mods

    I was a little nervous about this one since GT's have pretty good midrange power but here is how it went. I have a Stage 2 WRX (downpipe, uppipe, AP) and my friend has a 01 GT 5 speed with Headers, CAI, full exhaust, and 3.55 gears. We raced from about 70 - 120. We did it a few times and I pulled on him every time. It wasn't by much but by the end I had about car on him, at one point I was behind him in the same lane and I had to slow down a tad so I wouldn't hit him in the back . I was a little shocked but then I thought about it and the specs probably look like this. I am probably running about 270 - 280 to the crank. He is stock as 260, with his mods, I figure he is at about 280-290. To the wheels he probably has 20 to 25 hp on me BUT he also has about 300 lbs more then I do. Whatever the case, I was pretty happy with the result, he wasn't...

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    nice one. I too have a friend with a gt, his is much older though, about a '94 I think. I know the older gts have much less hp, but the thing I'm worried about is his torque. I'm afraid that his torque will give him a better launch and i wont be able to catch back up. Speaking of launches, i was reading the launch thread not too long ago, and i have some questions. Some people were saying that the best way too launch is to rev high and drop the clutch to let the tires spin a bit before you take off to keep your rpms high. Is it possible to do this in a stock wrx? I just wanna know before i go off and try to launch like this and watch my transmission go flying out of the back of my car. Right now i usually slip the clutch when im racing, but i know thats not good over time, so thats why im trying to find alternate lauch methods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pjb2006
    nice one. I too have a friend with a gt, his is much older though, about a '94 I think. I know the older gts have much less hp, but the thing I'm worried about is his torque. I'm afraid that his torque will give him a better launch and i wont be able to catch back up.
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    AWD>RWD launch, haha especially if he has more torque, he'll just sit there spinning his tires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjb2006
    nice one. I too have a friend with a gt, his is much older though, about a '94 I think. I know the older gts have much less hp, but the thing I'm worried about is his torque. I'm afraid that his torque will give him a better launch and i wont be able to catch back up. Speaking of launches, i was reading the launch thread not too long ago, and i have some questions. Some people were saying that the best way too launch is to rev high and drop the clutch to let the tires spin a bit before you take off to keep your rpms high. Is it possible to do this in a stock wrx? I just wanna know before i go off and try to launch like this and watch my transmission go flying out of the back of my car. Right now i usually slip the clutch when im racing, but i know thats not good over time, so thats why im trying to find alternate lauch methods.
    The way I launch now which appears to be the most effective way (at least for me) Is to rev to around 2k then floor it to about 5k(you'd be suprised at how much more torque you make as opposed to just blipping the throttle) and as soon as it reaches 5k slip the clutch really fast(almost like just popping the clutch) just to about 85% bite point then let go of the rest soon after. This way I can chirp my tires and not bog at all. My friend in his evo just does the same 2k-5k rev thing and just pops his clutch which seems to work for him because his motor just makes way more power(to chirp tires) than ours do without bogging. I guess as long as you dont bog(bogging causes transmission damage) and chirp the tires a bit it could be considered a good launch? Im not much of a drag racer but Im sure some other people could chime in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 13enWRXdr1v3r
    AWD>RWD launch, haha especially if he has more torque, he'll just sit there spinning his tires.
    More torque, less torque, it means nothing if you can't transfer the momentum from the wheels to the pavement. Wide, sticky tires + high torque = catapult launch... and the high low-end torque on a V8 like that properly managed can give a nice advantage... plus weight shift puts MORE weight on the drive wheels of a RWD car...

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    "Some people were saying that the best way too launch is to rev high and drop the clutch to let the tires spin a bit before you take off to keep your rpms high. Is it possible to do this in a stock wrx? I just wanna know before i go off and try to launch like this and watch my transmission go flying out of the back of my car"

    NOPE!

    Slip the clutch quickly/smoothly

    (do a quick search on launching a WRX)

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    GT's arent that fast unless you put a lot of cash into it.A stock GT is really nothing to fear,and theres a lot of them around so whenever you want to run one you have a good chance of finding one.Im biased,im a Mustang hater.
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    I wouldn't say that. I stock 01 GT is going to trap near 100, that is alot faster then a stock WRX. I am not a big fan of mustangs either, but I respect their power.
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    05 and newer GT's are the only ones you need to worry about with a stock wrx, even from a roll just make sure you are in the right gear.
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    I don't agree with that. A stock 01 is going to run a 14 @100. A stock WRX is going to run a 14.5 @95. Sooooo, that doesn't look like a WRX is going to beat it to me, especially from a roll. I know that sometimes we can have blind loyalty to the WRX, but sometimes you just have to look at the facts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 05silverWRX
    I don't agree with that. A stock 01 is going to run a 14 @100. A stock WRX is going to run a 14.5 @95. Sooooo, that doesn't look like a WRX is going to beat it to me, especially from a roll. I know that sometimes we can have blind loyalty to the WRX, but sometimes you just have to look at the facts.
    I've pulled on that style GT's from a roll when i was a stock, maybe they were automatics, i dont' know but it isn't blind loyalty. I guess if you go way top end, like 110 plus i'd watch out.
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    my experience with the GT is that once you get into the higher speeds and rpm range with them they suck. i reeled one in without even leaving 5th gear on the highway and blew his doors off at 130. down low i think it would be alittle more of a challenge though. but dont ever get too cocky!

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