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This is a discussion on Cobalt SS vs. 06 TR within the Comparison: WRX vs World forums, part of the Community - Meet other Enthusiasts category; Originally Posted by ShardAerithes As far as I know the Viper is faster than the C6 Z06. The SRT-4 is ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShardAerithes
    As far as I know the Viper is faster than the C6 Z06.

    The SRT-4 is good for a 14 flat 1/4 mile.

    The Evo comes in a few designations.

    Evolution VIII, Evo MR, Evo RS and Evo IX. The MR is the most expensive, and fastest.
    The MR isn't the fastest, the RS is thanks to its lighter weight. All of them have the same powerplant, its just that the MR has a 6 spd compared to 5 spd in the VIII, IX, and RS. The new Evo9's are trapping 105-106mph which is a huge improvement over the Evo8's thanks to the larger turbo and MIVEC.

    Oh yeah, and the SRT-4 has dipped into the 13's with a capable driver behind the wheel. I'd also say that the SRT-4 would be slightly faster than a 06 WRX.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoostJunkie21
    The MR isn't the fastest, the RS is thanks to its lighter weight. All of them have the same powerplant, its just that the MR has a 6 spd compared to 5 spd in the VIII, IX, and RS. The new Evo9's are trapping 105-106mph which is a huge improvement over the Evo8's thanks to the larger turbo and MIVEC.

    Oh yeah, and the SRT-4 has dipped into the 13's with a capable driver behind the wheel. I'd also say that the SRT-4 would be slightly faster than a 06 WRX.

    The 06 WRX also dipped into the 13's... my friend was only able to get a 14.00 out of his SRT-4, and he's a great driver. I wouldn't doubt the SRT being faster from a roll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShardAerithes
    I wouldn't doubt the SRT being faster from a roll.
    2006' wrx or not, the SRT-4 will walk a wrx from a roll. I have seen stock SRT-4's run with STi's from a roll, and with exhaust and MBC put distance on them.
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    srt will walk on wrx. and the new evo9 will walk allll over stock STI's.

    i raced one last week. i have 3 inch turbo back, FMIC, perrin short ram, clutch, and protuned. from a 10 mph roll to 130 i put only 1-2 cars on his BONE stock evo 9 MR

    those cars boost 20 + psi stock

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    The Cobalt SS really isn't that fast, even with the supercharger. It falls far behind other cars like the WRX, RSX-S, and SRT-4. In a not too recent comparison in Car and Driver the only thing the Cobalt managed to edge out was the Ion Redline (however, due to turbo lag and Honda's hand in C&D's pocket, the RSX Type S beat the WRX, though it was the slowest to 60, through the quarter mile, and around the autocross track).
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    Quote Originally Posted by NHblackSTichick
    srt will walk on wrx. and the new evo9 will walk allll over stock STI's.

    i raced one last week. i have 3 inch turbo back, FMIC, perrin short ram, clutch, and protuned. from a 10 mph roll to 130 i put only 1-2 cars on his BONE stock evo 9 MR

    those cars boost 20 + psi stock
    I certainly wouldn't say walk all over the STI. In magazine comparisons, the MR and STI have traded wins, with Motor Trend citing the the STI's being more fun, and at the very least, the difference between the STI and MR is in tenths of seconds. Also, not to forget, an Evo MR is several thousand dollars more than the STI, and if you were to funnel that money into a new turbocharger, you'd walk all over the STI.

    Around a track, the biggest issue is that the STI's suspension is far closer to that of a rally car than the Evo's is, which means the STI will handle offroad situations and landings better than the Evo. Though I haven't driven the Evo yet (you'd be surprised at how stingy they are about test drives compared to Subaru dealers) I am in the business of writing about cars, so I do keep my ear to the ground.

    These cars are very evenly matched, though for straight out performance (and now looks, too, I think) the Evolution has just edged it out, but at a higher cost. Other than that, the STI has plenty of potential (which you, of course, already know), a lower price, and a more liveable interior.

    I'm sorry, I believe I rambled a bit in this post. If you can find a point to it, that would be great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raza
    I certainly wouldn't say walk all over the STI. In magazine comparisons, the MR and STI have traded wins, with Motor Trend citing the the STI's being more fun, and at the very least, the difference between the STI and MR is in tenths of seconds. Also, not to forget, an Evo MR is several thousand dollars more than the STI, and if you were to funnel that money into a new turbocharger, you'd walk all over the STI.

    Around a track, the biggest issue is that the STI's suspension is far closer to that of a rally car than the Evo's is, which means the STI will handle offroad situations and landings better than the Evo. Though I haven't driven the Evo yet (you'd be surprised at how stingy they are about test drives compared to Subaru dealers) I am in the business of writing about cars, so I do keep my ear to the ground.

    These cars are very evenly matched, though for straight out performance (and now looks, too, I think) the Evolution has just edged it out, but at a higher cost. Other than that, the STI has plenty of potential (which you, of course, already know), a lower price, and a more liveable interior.

    I'm sorry, I believe I rambled a bit in this post. If you can find a point to it, that would be great.
    The regular IX costs just as much as an STi and is far more underrated than it. They have been shown to make 260-270whp on Dynojets...I have yet to see stock STi's make that much which brings me to my next point. Stock IX's have shown to trap 105-107mph which clearly indicates the increased power over the VIII's and the power they have shown to put down on dyno's. Again, I have yet to see stock STi's trap that much in the 1/4 mile, in which they range anywhere from 99-103mph. Thats a significant difference if you ask me.

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    A guy that I go to school with has the mazdaspeed 6. I am pretty sure it is AWD turbo. I wonder how much power it's putting down. I am going to go take a look on the website.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 06-wrx
    A guy that I go to school with has the mazdaspeed 6. I am pretty sure it is AWD turbo. I wonder how much power it's putting down. I am going to go take a look on the website.
    The Mazdaspeed 6 is indeed a turbo 4 cylinder with a front biased AWD system. It has 274bhp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DTR rex
    2006' wrx or not, the SRT-4 will walk a wrx from a roll. I have seen stock SRT-4's run with STi's from a roll, and with exhaust and MBC put distance on them.

    Sorry but i must say your nuts... lol. Cause i have a 2005 Stage 2 WRX and i kill my buddy who has an SRT-4 with Full exhaust and BOV and INTAKE and some other stuff as well, not sure about everything he has.. but from a start he cant touch me... not now, not ever. Even when i was stock and he was stock, he couldn't keep up.. no doubt he is fast, and he is still fast but i still beat him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raza
    The Cobalt SS really isn't that fast, even with the supercharger. It falls far behind other cars like the WRX, RSX-S, and SRT-4. In a not too recent comparison in Car and Driver the only thing the Cobalt managed to edge out was the Ion Redline (however, due to turbo lag and Honda's hand in C&D's pocket, the RSX Type S beat the WRX, though it was the slowest to 60, through the quarter mile, and around the autocross track).

    Im starting to hate the freakin cobalt ss .. i have had so many try to run me and i kill them then they say its cause im not stock or because of this,, or they had a bad start... they piss me off.. .lol.... I honestly think they are the next generation of mustang drivers.. that think they are all that cause of the name of there car but can't keep up with nothing... exspecially a suby... "you have to be crazy if you think you can win" lol.. remember that cobalt owners... nice car,, but no chance

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    Last weekend I raced a manual Cobalt SS (supercharged) he had an intake, headers, and exhaust while my car is completely stock (and an auto ) We did a complete stop on some highway in N.C. (near Elizabeth City) I didnt want to do a power launch so I kept mine in "D" we were neck and neck off the start then he started pulling on me and then he left me a good 2-3 cars behind. But the whole all I could hear was his supercharge whine and it made me feel itty bitty

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cybergeist
    Last weekend I raced a manual Cobalt SS (supercharged) he had an intake, headers, and exhaust while my car is completely stock (and an auto ) We did a complete stop on some highway in N.C. (near Elizabeth City) I didnt want to do a power launch so I kept mine in "D" we were neck and neck off the start then he started pulling on me and then he left me a good 2-3 cars behind. But the whole all I could hear was his supercharge whine and it made me feel itty bitty

    HAHA! Man, you gotta get that launch on him, that was the only chance you had at beating him. Oh well, props to you for admitting that, next time launch on him to give yourself a fair chance.
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    [QUOTE=ShardAerithes]As far as I know the Viper is faster than the C6 Z06.QUOTE]


    Not true....Most comparo's I've seen put the ZO6 quicker than the Viper and neck and neck with the Ford GT.


    ANYWAY.....THE ONLY way to tell between the SS and SS Supercharged is the "Supercharged" that is below the SS badges on the sides and rear.

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    The SS supercharged has bigger rims and a bigger wing too. Check out chevy's website.

    Either way, the one I raced did say SS Supercharged on it, at least I think so. I am gonna keep my eyes peeled for it around where I work.
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