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This is a discussion on Cts-v? within the Comparison: WRX vs World forums, part of the Community - Meet other Enthusiasts category; Originally Posted by D0WNxSH1FT What Corvette? We are talking about a CTS-V. L-GT is a lot slower than a STi/CTS-V ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by D0WNxSH1FT
    What Corvette? We are talking about a CTS-V.

    L-GT is a lot slower than a STi/CTS-V
    hmmmm....define slower? So that makes a WRX a huge bunch slower?
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    my father had one of the first 04's that showed up n southen cali, it was a fun car... ATE GAS LIKE A TRUCK!!! and was nice and comfortable but when racing around the suspension did get tighter.... we beat a 03 zo6 in it... THAT was fun... but he sold it to get his 745IL, it was a nice car.... did get wheel hop and when downshifting into corners was WAY to easy to get totally sideways... but in a straight line not much could beat it... my dad raced my freinds father in there E55 and didnt get beat by much mayb 2 car lenghts and there was 3 people in the V and 1 in the E55.... so it might have been a closer race if there werent 3 guys over 250 in the V.. i say they are nice.. and comfy and stuff but be prepared to get 12 miles to the gallon (if your lucky) my dad averaged 10.5 and he wasnt mashing the pedal all the time. also if memory serves me right it ways close to 4K pounds i think its like 3800-3900
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    Quote Originally Posted by IHRTWRX
    Ummm. You were the one who mentioned a vette.
    I said Corvette 6 speed. the CTS-V comes w/ a Corvette 6speed transmission.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YBNormal07
    hmmmm....define slower? So that makes a WRX a huge bunch slower?
    L-GT runs a 5.8 0-60 and a 14.0 or so 1/4mi. the CTS-V runs under a 5.0 0-60 and a low 1/4 mi time.
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    I've seen times quoted for the CTS-V for the 0-60 anywhere from 5.7 to 4.2 (I don't believe that anyway... that's WAY too fast), and I've seen the 1/4 mile times from 13.7-13.3. That's not a lot to me. And we all now how cheap it is to get some extra ponies out of the LGT (not to turn this inot one of those "If you take the money you would have spent with the cts and put it into mods for the lgt..." type of arguements).
    With these two cars it really comes down to a price issue. The cadillac costs ~$20k more. You do get more, but do you really need it and is what you're getting worth $20k?
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    GM has come out with a fix for the wheel hop problem. The dealer should take care of it free of charge.

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    If you have the money, cop yourself the CTS-V. That car is straight pimp!
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    I have heard that the 05's are better than the 04 CTS V's so keep that in mind. First year problems and that kind of BS. If you get the 05 CTS V you will definately enjoy it a ton. I would take one over any other sedan on the market right now (in its price range and lower).
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    I still think that for the money of the CTS-V the M3 would be a better buy.

    Also, as midknight mentioned, the LGT should not be out of the question either. The interior is very nice and 2 magazines have called it "audi like".. Not to mention 4doors, awd, and with about $1,000 you can go stageII and run low 13's.
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    M3 and CTS V are completely different classes, a small 2 door coupe vs. a large 4 door sedan. I hate the M3 anyway, and most cars German. Too many expensive problems for me, when I had mine. The only thing cool about M3s is wasting them on the highway with a "regular old Mustang"
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    Yeah but it's still a Chevy. And they seem to be having problems with reliability issues recently. But yeah, they're really nice looking and luxurious. They're two different beasts.
    Why are you looking at a CTS-V and an STI? I think a better comparo would be to a Legacy GT, no?
    Holy cow, talk about import bias ignorance at its finest

    First of all, the CTS-V is a Cadillac, not a Chevy (yes, I know they're both GM, but that's not the point). Second, I can't beleive you're comparing a Legacy GT to a CTS-V. Nothing against the Legacy, as its a nice quick car, but holy cow man, that's like a Honda owner going "yeah, my Accord is comparable to a Mercedes, and it costs less"

    (note, I'm not a domestic fanboy either, but some of these comments are just plain stupid)

    The CTS-V is a beast of a car, same engine as the C5 Z06 (400hp). I got to test drive one recently, great interior and insane power. It's often advertised as "America's M5, at 2/3 the cost".

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    but i cant help it i love m3's too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DTR rex
    I still think that for the money of the CTS-V the M3 would be a better buy.

    Also, as midknight mentioned, the LGT should not be out of the question either. The interior is very nice and 2 magazines have called it "audi like".. Not to mention 4doors, awd, and with about $1,000 you can go stageII and run low 13's.
    And still get 30 MPG...just did it on a 300 mile trip tonight. Set the cruise at 72 and away she went. Nice to have with gas like it is now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uke
    Holy cow, talk about import bias ignorance at its finest

    First of all, the CTS-V is a Cadillac, not a Chevy (yes, I know they're both GM, but that's not the point). Second, I can't beleive you're comparing a Legacy GT to a CTS-V. Nothing against the Legacy, as its a nice quick car, but holy cow man, that's like a Honda owner going "yeah, my Accord is comparable to a Mercedes, and it costs less"

    (note, I'm not a domestic fanboy either, but some of these comments are just plain stupid)

    The CTS-V is a beast of a car, same engine as the C5 Z06 (400hp). I got to test drive one recently, great interior and insane power. It's often advertised as "America's M5, at 2/3 the cost".

    Carry on
    No import bias here, just a little common sense. Neither I nor anyone is saying that the LGT is an equal to the cts-V. All I'm saying is that when you look at the subaru line-up and try to compare one of them to the CTS-V, the sti is probably the wrong choice. The only similarity that the cts-v and the sti have in common is that they're both fast and have 4 doors. The Legacy GT is more comparable in terms of size, interior appointment, and overall feel. So while you may find that to be stupid, I find it to be a bit of logic...

    And your little slight of hand regarding that first comment you quoted is kind of amusing. You seemed to skip right over the main point of that: that domestics are not reliable (or at least not as reliable as most japanese cars). That's not import bias either, that's just fact.

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    Point taken on the Legacy, I do agree that it is a nice car and the same "type" of car the CTS-V is. I wouldn't mind owning a Legacy GT myself.

    Quote Originally Posted by MidKnight
    And your little slight of hand regarding that first comment you quoted is kind of amusing. You seemed to skip right over the main point of that: that domestics are not reliable (or at least not as reliable as most japanese cars). That's not import bias either, that's just fact.
    I don't think so man. If you look at the reliability rankings for the past few years for new cars, you'll find that most of them are domestics (I'll try to dig it up later). You'll also find different results depending on who conducts the survey. Frankly, some automotive magizines have such a big import bias, it's laughable. However, from personal experience (yeah, I know its not scientific), my family has owned both domestic imports, and the domestics have on average, FAR outlasted the imports we've had. This included an 89 Caddilac (still ticking strong with 260K miles), a Honda Accord that didn't last long, Chevy Baretta that's I've since given to a friend that's lasted forever (I forget how many miles), and my current car that has one of the world's most reliable engines in it. Granted, I'm a little biased towards domestics, but that's because I go with what works for me. There's also quite a few imports that I like (most Acura's and of course the STI)

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