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    Ive been reading alot lately about a race between a GTO and WRX STI. so who would win WRXSTI vs 04 GTO??? and then WRXSTI 05 GTO??? would the manual WRX compete wit a 04 GTO??? thx.

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    As far as the 05' models go, according to motor trend its has the GTO listed 13.3 @ 107.5 with a 5.0 0-60. And the STi as 13.3 @ 100.1 with a 4.7 0-60. I havent ever raced one but these numbers indicate the GTO would win from a roll and a stop would be close race through the quarter, but with the GTO pulling. However, Im not sure what its like in your area, but I've noticed here you'd have a hard time finding a stock STi that will race, while GTO's on the other hand its just the opposite.

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    the 04 GTO would be a drivers race from a roll, and would loose pretty bad to a well driven STI from a stop. The 05 is a beast though, from a roll you'd deffinatly have to modded in the STi to take it, from a stop its probably a pretty close race. Both cars run low 13's according to most mags, and people have hit high 12's in both stock, but the GTO is just a brute and traps a bit higher, giving it the benifit from a roll, not to mention no turbo lag either which in most cases would give it a little boost.

    However, if your asking this because you thinking of buying one or the other, I'd drive both, and also consider the whole picture. STi will probably be a better every day car, more doors, a little more back-seat room, more trunk space (the 04 GTO I worked on had this huge chassis brace that took up like 40-50% of what you would think the trunk would be, I assume the 05 is the same), not to mention AWD. Traction control is ok, but you cant really compare it to AWD in bad weather.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NewCar20
    Ive been reading alot lately about a race between a GTO and WRX STI. so who would win WRXSTI vs 04 GTO??? and then WRXSTI 05 GTO??? would the manual WRX compete wit a 04 GTO??? thx.
    Also consider where you live (not in your sig) since NA cars lose proportionately more power in higher elevations than do FI cars.
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    05 gto's are just beasts. I love the car, but I couldn't live with the tiny trunk space. When I bought my evo I left that morning with intentions of driving home with a new 04 gto. Two large doors and the tiny trunk were the only two turnoffs for me.

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    i own

    a 04 GTO now but i am almost %100 precent sure gettin rid of it. If i buy a manual WRX how much would it cost to mod it to be albe to compete wit a 04 GTO??

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    If you want a WRX to compete with the 04 GTO, a cobb stage 2 should be able to run (1/4 mile wise) with a stock 04 GTO, and that will set you back about $1500. If you want to hold one off from a roll you'll probably need a slightly larger turbo, VF30-34 would get you there as long as your ultimate power goals arent tooo lofty. you can get around 300whp, which is good for mid 12's@105+mph in a well driven WRX. You could probably get this setup for around $3500-4000 (not including installation, so if you cant do it yourself, give yourself a few hundred dollers for that) depending on where you get your parts and what you go with in addition to the turbo (like an aftermarket intercooler)
    Last edited by 04wrx4keeps; 07-18-2005 at 01:18 PM.
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    im jst startin to learn bout

    stages. so if i get the stage 2 cobb i will be able to compete wit a GTO??? i have also been reading about the WRX having a weak tranny or does that not have anyting to do wit stages? everyones replys on this topic have been helpful so far, please keep sending them. thx.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewCar20
    stages. so if i get the stage 2 cobb i will be able to compete wit a GTO??? i have also been reading about the WRX having a weak tranny or does that not have anyting to do wit stages? everyones replys on this topic have been helpful so far, please keep sending them. thx.
    Well I have a Cobb Stage 2.5 right now, which should be around 270whp(100 more whp than an average stock wrx) according to cobb. I have about 62,0000 miles on the car so far with around 10k (installed begining of april...yes I drive alot) on the 2.5 setup with no problems so far. I am still on the original clutch and the tranny is all stock except for a short shifter.

    Before the 2.5 I spent almost a year at cobb's stage 2 and logged around 20k miles, through this year I was living in NJ, so it was constantly submitted to stop and go traffic and long (300+miles without stopping) drives 4 or 5 times to and from home in that year.

    Before the stage 2 I ran a 3" Turbo-back exhaust for about 20k miles. So far I havent had a single problem with the car that I havent caused and fixed, usually simple things (adjusting my BOV, or when I did the turbo swap I ripped an o-ring and leaked fuel for a day). I have a 2004 by the way, and from what I know the gears were widened to near STi-RA spec in the late 03-early 04's, with a further revision for the late 04 (double synchros on first I think), so the tranny has come a way since the horror storys of the 02's you hear so much about.

    I have also been running a completely atmospheric BOV since before the turbo-back, and as long as I keep it adjusted properly (the spring has seemed to gradualy loose tension, so I have had to adjust it now and then) it has given me no problems with drivability or stalling. Hope this helps you out, I love my WRX, and of the 10+ cars that I have owned in my short 6 years driving it is by far my favorite in almost all respects, and my past cars included an 02 RSX-S, 99 BMW 328is M package, and a number of other sporty cars including camaros and mustangs, so its had some competition.

    My only caution with the wrx is that I do tend to drive it a bit softer than my past 2wd cars. This I'm sure explains some of my success with reliability, I also service my car regularly as per the dealer instructions and change my oil every 3k miles, and alot of my mileage is highway miles (I commuted 70miles a day for the first year). However I've probably had close to 40-50 trips down the the 1/4 mile track with it in the 2 years that I've owned her, and I my last trip to the track I pulled reletively consistent 1.8 60's with one 1.7, and I do like to play with willing cars on empty streets late at night too...so its deffinatly had a fare share of 4k+ Rpm launches.

    Hope this helps in your decision
    Last edited by 04wrx4keeps; 07-18-2005 at 06:09 PM.
    Cobb Stage 2.5 VF-34 + uppipe
    Best ET so far - 13.1@103 with a 1.81 60'

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