As a former RX8 owner, I can tell you that they aren't all show and no go. I had a 6M, and it would run pretty well, especially from a roll. They have terrible wheel hop from a dig, but the power band from 5K-9K is pretty sweet. A stock rex will eat them alive, because I think that although Mazda mistated HP in the beginning (250 originally vs. 238 later on) many on the RX8 forum think that the car is actually pushing even less. To get the 5.9 0-60 time, you need to do a clutch dump at around 7K, which means that you won't be doing many of those. I love my rex, but the 8 is a pretty sweet ride too. Just my $.02.