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    Quote Originally Posted by Calvinball View Post
    And once you are actually moving, a Mazdaspeed3 is just as quick (45-65mph is the same according to Morontrend...er...Motortrend), and a Ford Focus ST is significantly quicker while turning (.97 lateral g vs .92).

    Can we all just agree that numbers are interesting but never tell the whole tale of a car, and can even be misleading? I'm sure there are those who are new or not as learned to WRX's who think "0-60 in 4.7, how the hell did that other car that can only do it in 5.8 hang with me??"

    PS. I really didn't actually intend to type "morontrend," it just came through my fingers that way, I thought I should leave it for lulz.
    First off, definite lulz are in order for the "Morontrend" comment. Head over to Jalopnik and check out "Motor Trend theater." Some real gems in there. Fun fact, Richard Hammond was a presenter for MT before Top Gear.

    Second, I completely agree with this. I think we've all become numbers obsessed, myself included in some instances. In the fantasy football culture we live in, stats reign supreme and people that aren't car enthusiasts (and even some gear heads) seem to go by "expert" opinions and 0-60 times when shopping for a car. If you want to make your car faster from 0-60, by all means do so, I'm not saying you shouldn't. I just feel that a lot of people use that stat as a basis on performance when they really shouldn't; it only tells such a small portion of the car's story. That goes for numbers on the whole. In my case, for example, I test drove about 5 family sedans, the Mazda CX-5, the ST, the WRX, and the MS3 as those were all in my price range and I liked them all. The WRX is not the best performer in certain categories (i.e. comfort, handling, and MPGs), but when I drove it, it just felt like home; like i was supposed to own this car. That means more to me than any number ever could.

    Lastly, I think that when the average consumer goes to buy a car, they have no idea what they're doing and are severely misinformed because of shows like Top Gear. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE TG, but I take it as an entertainment program, not as bible. I think some people (not saying anyone here, just on my soapbox) are brainwashed by the "experts" to think faster = better = happier. I cannot disagree with that more. I put more weight behind personal preference than numbers any day. Just my $.02.
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    I used the 0-60 as a freaking reference; this is getting overblown lol. I'm well aware of the actual performance measures of a car and that 0-60 is not a great one; I should have used a better reference. For example, the WRX now has a faster 0-60 time than than the STi, simply because it requires one less gear change. It is obviously not faster around a racetrack. All I was trying to make was while it is not the quickest car in the sub $30k range, it certainly provides a helluva lot of fun, and has a lot of practicality that other cars in the price range ( BR-Z/FR-S, Genny Coupe, Mustang) don't. And that's why I think it's a great car. And with it's great reputation and aftermarket support, you CAN make the REX a hell of a performance machine. Subaru gave us a great canvas to work with.
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    Shame on you! BTW the Dark Gray Metalic WRX hits 60 in 4.4 seconds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShiftingLanes View Post
    First off, definite lulz are in order for the "Morontrend" comment. Head over to Jalopnik and check out "Motor Trend theater." Some real gems in there. Fun fact, Richard Hammond was a presenter for MT before Top Gear.

    Second, I completely agree with this. I think we've all become numbers obsessed, myself included in some instances. In the fantasy football culture we live in, stats reign supreme and people that aren't car enthusiasts (and even some gear heads) seem to go by "expert" opinions and 0-60 times when shopping for a car. If you want to make your car faster from 0-60, by all means do so, I'm not saying you shouldn't. I just feel that a lot of people use that stat as a basis on performance when they really shouldn't; it only tells such a small portion of the car's story. That goes for numbers on the whole. In my case, for example, I test drove about 5 family sedans, the Mazda CX-5, the ST, the WRX, and the MS3 as those were all in my price range and I liked them all. The WRX is not the best performer in certain categories (i.e. comfort, handling, and MPGs), but when I drove it, it just felt like home; like i was supposed to own this car. That means more to me than any number ever could.

    Lastly, I think that when the average consumer goes to buy a car, they have no idea what they're doing and are severely misinformed because of shows like Top Gear. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE TG, but I take it as an entertainment program, not as bible. I think some people (not saying anyone here, just on my soapbox) are brainwashed by the "experts" to think faster = better = happier. I cannot disagree with that more. I put more weight behind personal preference than numbers any day. Just my $.02.
    ^^^ Brilliant post/well written, too! I agree, 100%. Cheers/B

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