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    I submitted an order today for a '15 WRX Limited. I called every dealer in my area (Roberts Auto Mall, Rafferty Subaru, Colonial Subaru, Concordville Subaru, Matt Slap Subaru, Delaware Subaru, Glanzmann Subaru) and none of them were willing to negotiate a deal less than MSRP so I went with the dealer that offered a lifetime power-train warranty.

    Did I overpay? I asked if there was any room for negotiation but they all gave me the same response. They also confirmed that the Subaru VIP Program, BJ's, & Costco were all illegible for the WRX/STi

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    I placed an order 3 weeks ago for a '15 WRX and used the Costco discount -- $1K over invoice. Two dealers here were willing to do it using Costco, too. And I'm in a major metro area on the west coast. I think it depends on the dealers. Both of the ones I talked to said they're not supposed to give the discount on custom orders, but they were both willing to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stormrunner11 View Post
    I submitted an order today for a '15 WRX Limited. I called every dealer in my area (Roberts Auto Mall, Rafferty Subaru, Colonial Subaru, Concordville Subaru, Matt Slap Subaru, Delaware Subaru, Glanzmann Subaru) and none of them were willing to negotiate a deal less than MSRP so I went with the dealer that offered a lifetime power-train warranty.

    Did I overpay? I asked if there was any room for negotiation but they all gave me the same response. They also confirmed that the Subaru VIP Program, BJ's, & Costco were all illegible for the WRX/STi
    Why not go with Clayton at Ramsey Subaru? He is selling them right now at dealer invoice here on the site and the drive back in a new car will be fun.

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    Do you think the lifetime warranty on powertrain that I got from my dealer is worth the $2200 extra I'm paying over invoice? (I plan on keeping the car til it dies).

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    Why not go with Clayton at Ramsey Subaru? He is selling them right now at dealer invoice here on the site and the drive back in a new car will be fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stormrunner11 View Post
    Do you think the lifetime warranty on powertrain that I got from my dealer is worth the $2200 extra I'm paying over invoice? (I plan on keeping the car til it dies).
    This is my first subaru, but from what I read if you take care of the car, it will last as long as you need. If something happens, being a new design, it will happen while you still have the standard warranty. And if you modify the car (it is hard to resist) any warranty can be void (if the dealer wants).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hirurg80 View Post
    Why not go with Clayton at Ramsey Subaru? He is selling them right now at dealer invoice here on the site and the drive back in a new car will be fun.
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    Rexxx0486 - I just test drove a new 2015 WRX premium model and loved it. After speaking with the dealer, he was willing to take off 2000 off the MSRP, which was $29,520. After researching this price online, this appears to be a good deal. The premium has no add ons, which was fine with me. What are your thoughts? I just want a fair price.

    In addition, I live in the northeast, which winter tires would you suggest me buying for the WRX?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WRXFan207 View Post
    Rexxx0486 - I just test drove a new 2015 WRX premium model and loved it. After speaking with the dealer, he was willing to take off 2000 off the MSRP, which was $29,520. After researching this price online, this appears to be a good deal. The premium has no add ons, which was fine with me. What are your thoughts? I just want a fair price.

    In addition, I live in the northeast, which winter tires would you suggest me buying for the WRX?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WRXFan207 View Post
    Rexxx0486 - I just test drove a new 2015 WRX premium model and loved it. After speaking with the dealer, he was willing to take off 2000 off the MSRP, which was $29,520. After researching this price online, this appears to be a good deal. The premium has no add ons, which was fine with me. What are your thoughts? I just want a fair price.

    In addition, I live in the northeast, which winter tires would you suggest me buying for the WRX?
    Thats a good deal, jump on it, especially if it is an in stock car. And yes, Blizzaks are a great choice for winter driving. Honestly I think any dedicated snow tire, even pretty cheap ones, will be better than the best all seasons when it comes to driving in the snow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rexxx0486 View Post
    Thats a good deal, jump on it, especially if it is an in stock car. And yes, Blizzaks are a great choice for winter driving. Honestly I think any dedicated snow tire, even pretty cheap ones, will be better than the best all seasons when it comes to driving in the snow.
    Thanks Rexxx.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WRXFan207 View Post
    Thanks Rexxx.
    No problem man. If you want, pm me the details of the deal and totals and whatnot and I'd be glad to give it an eyeball for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rexxx0486 View Post
    No problem man. If you want, pm me the details of the deal and totals and whatnot and I'd be glad to give it an eyeball for you.
    I just sent you a pm.

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    Rexx I'm sorry you may have answered this but I haven't read through all 22 pages. When dealing with a trade in, is it realistic to use kbb/Edmunds to judge what the dealer will actually give. Are the kbb trade in values higher than whatever the dealer uses to evaluate a trade. I know every dealer/salesman is different but is it even in the ballpark ?

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    Hey, glad to see this thread back from the dead! Good question. Short answer is no. kbb is way off more often than not, and is paid per click so they could really care less if they are too high... Edmunds is usually a little better but still crap. The best free way to figure a realistic trade values is to search your car on eBay motors sold listings for a few honest comparable cars. That way you are seeing what real buyers paid for cars just like yours in the last month or so. Make sure to read the descriptions and look at the auto check/car fax for your comps. That brings up a good point actually. Cars with bad carfax reports are NOT worth as much as clean carfax vehicles. Doesn't matter why. Period. If a petting zoo's duck took a crap on your Ferrari f40 and you had a police report done or claimed it with your insurance company then your car has had had an accident as far as carfax and the next buyer are concerned. In that case it would probably read "vehicle involved in a collision with an animal, front area damaged" and buyers will cringe at the thought of you vaporizing a deer at 190 mph. Carfax is vague and frequently inaccurate. (You still want to check it though when buying used to make sure you're not buying a salvage car or one with airbags deployed or a bent frame or something) You might be able to get a private sale buyer to believe you about the duck if you sold it privately. You might get the dealer to believe you if you trade it in, But it won't matter because the dealer will NEVER get the next buyer to believe them. After all they are obviously just trying to pawn this wreck of a car off on someone since they are the scum of the earth. Remember that next a duck craps on your F40. Anyway, for trades around here, and by that I mean at least the entire northeast, we use galves.com. It is not free but it is dead accurate for the most part. For ten bucks you can get a report, or I'll do it for free if you write me a shameless plug on dealerrater.com Here is galves.com explanation of why you should use them.

    Why Thousands of Dealers Use Galves

    The answer, as usual, is money. Dealers need a guide they can really depend on to be current and accurate. If we provide values that are too low, dealers lose deals- if they are too high, dealers lose money. Galves canít afford to be wrong because dealers canít afford to be wrong. Thatís why so many dealers trust Galves as their primary guidebook. They subscribe because they know our numbers are the most accurate and realistic in the industry and they understand our 55+ year commitment to providing values that just "work."

    Our Pricing Perspective
    Galves publishes two wholesale values for each vehicle. The wholesale values Galves publishes are:

    Galves Trade-in Value: represents the "actual cash value" of a consumer owned trade-in. This value should be used among dealers when handling "as traded" vehicles. Represents a vehicle in good cosmetic and mechanical condition. May need some minor reconditioning in the area of brakes, wheels, interior and exterior cosmetics. Any previous paintwork must be of good quality and not extensive or involving structural damage. Will need minor reconditioning and detailing to be sold at retail. Free of vehicle history issues. Most consumer-owned vehicles fit into this category.

    Galves Market Ready Value: Value for an exceptional/reconditioned 'market ready' vehicle. More representative of an auction transaction. Value for a vehicle that needs no reconditioning mechanically or cosmetically. Excellent wheels and tires. All systems have been inspected and are operating optimally. No evidence of significant paintwork or vehicle history issues. Excellent service records and service history. A vehicle that would qualify for certification. Only the most exceptional consumer-owned vehicles fall into this category.

    It is worth noting that Galves does NOT publish retail values. Retail transactions include so many potential variables with respect to such things as warranty, certification, finance incentives - just to name a few
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    Thank you much ! PM sent....

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