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    Quote Originally Posted by rexxx0486 View Post
    Word is I'll be getting one car that's it!
    HOLY **** can I reserve it???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikie13 View Post
    HOLY **** can I reserve it???
    I'll talk to the boss but I kinda doubt he's gonna let it go for 500 under invoice as we are only getting one car here and they are only building 100-150 STI's total.
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    If you let it go FOR invoice and not under, I'm cool with that...do you know if it's going to be the WRX or the STI?

    From what I understand there are only supposed to be 150 or 200 of each.
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    I believe we are getting an STi. I really thought we were going to get a bunch since I am the top WRX dealer in SDC territory but no such luck. I think they are making 200 WRX's and 150 STi's and thats it. That's not even enough to have one car for every dealer!
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    Damn...maybe it's a good thing you're getting the STI...I could only afford the WRX
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    Clayton,
    I paid extra $1000 to get the extended warranty up to 7 years for 70000 miles. Did I pay too much?

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    no that is actually a really good price for a 7/70 on a WRX!
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    Hey rexxx0486,

    Really appreciate your presence here on the board. I have a question on CPO WRXs. I hope this is kosher here. A dealer in CA is quoting around 3k over private party for a CPO on a 2009 WRX Hatch with 49k miles. If this car is likely a lease return, I would imagine there is a lot of margin to work with. But, as you said earlier, in CA it is really a sellers market (even for used WRXs). My question would be: how is the CPO price calculated, and is there more room than the dealer is claiming to negotiate? Any help here would be much appreciated.

    Also, are you familiar with pricing on extended warranty plans for the CPO cars. Ideally a full bumper-to-bumper 6 year?

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by uscmeche View Post
    Hey rexxx0486,

    Really appreciate your presence here on the board. I have a question on CPO WRXs. I hope this is kosher here. A dealer in CA is quoting around 3k over private party for a CPO on a 2009 WRX Hatch with 49k miles. If this car is likely a lease return, I would imagine there is a lot of margin to work with. But, as you said earlier, in CA it is really a sellers market (even for used WRXs). My question would be: how is the CPO price calculated, and is there more room than the dealer is claiming to negotiate? Any help here would be much appreciated.

    Also, are you familiar with pricing on extended warranty plans for the CPO cars. Ideally a full bumper-to-bumper 6 year?

    Thanks!
    No problem, assuming the same prices apply in CA, and allowing for a meager profit so you don't get thrown out or yelled at by the dealer, the CPO for a 50k 09 wrx should cost around 900 if just the powertrain version, or about 400 more if you want the the bumper to bumper version. Those are 6 yr 100k from the date of title. I really can't say what kind of margin they have on the car though, you'll have to find out the old fashioned way unfortunately. I will say that if you are using KBB for private value, don't. KBB is pretty much useless in the real world, and considered a joke by car dealers. Pretty much any other source (edmunds, NADA, oija board etc) would be much more accurate.
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    First thank you for being so active and friendly.

    Second, Service Program WQC-39 (Engine Control Module Reprogramming), any idea of what year models this is for? I have a 2013 and am hoping I do not have to do this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jilty View Post
    First thank you for being so active and friendly.

    Second, Service Program WQC-39 (Engine Control Module Reprogramming), any idea of what year models this is for? I have a 2013 and am hoping I do not have to do this.
    No problem I'm glad to help out my fellow WRXers. Regarding your question, I'd need your VIN to say if you need it, but you might as well call your dealer with your VIN and they can see if you need the update. It's free, only takes like 2 minutes to complete the job, and may result in improvements in driveability and performance so why don't you want to do it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rexxx0486 View Post
    No problem I'm glad to help out my fellow WRXers. Regarding your question, I'd need your VIN to say if you need it, but you might as well call your dealer with your VIN and they can see if you need the update. It's free, only takes like 2 minutes to complete the job, and may result in improvements in driveability and performance so why don't you want to do it?
    Basically I just went Stage 2 last week. I really dont want to uninstall the parts just to re install them a day later. If I put the stock map on, I will prob run cel codes and they will want to inspect my car most likely. I also read that if I go in flashed they will say they cannot connect and flash the fix. .....long story shorter hopefully, but im just being lazy and not wanting to put it all stock if not needed. I will pm you the vin in a minute. Thanks for the help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jilty View Post
    Basically I just went Stage 2 last week. I really dont want to uninstall the parts just to re install them a day later. If I put the stock map on, I will prob run cel codes and they will want to inspect my car most likely. I also read that if I go in flashed they will say they cannot connect and flash the fix. .....long story shorter hopefully, but im just being lazy and not wanting to put it all stock if not needed. I will pm you the vin in a minute. Thanks for the help.
    Ok I sent you your vehicle report and you are clear, no update required. In the future you might want to just go in for an oil change from your local dealer and feel them out about if they would be cool with some light mods, you'd be surprised how many dealers are cool about this stuff if they know you and you service there regularly and have a good rapport with them. (bringing dunkin donuts for the service guys is never a bad idea lol)
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    clayton I have a question(or two) that maybe you could clear up since maybe someone else might be curious. Why is it some dealerships are more inclined to be "mod friendly" as opposed to others. what benefit or lack there off, does the dealership have to be mod friendly? the reason i ask is because ive seen on the boards how some dealerships even sell COBB parts, and recommend a COBB tune, because im sure you as well as everybody else who has ever grazed a Subaru forum knows its common knowledge how bad the stock tune is.

    From a consumers prespective it would all make so much sense an be so reassuring knowing that we can atleast have a stage 1, knowing full well how lean the GR models run(that 08 model was something scary) and have full confidence our dealership has our back. Wouldnt that reduce the cat and mouse game between service managers trying to stick it to the little guy who just baught your 35-40k car in good faith, and consumers who just want to have a car they have confidence in will not run lean on their first track session. Has anyone brought up the idea to SOA about a partnership with COBB kinda like Mugen and Honda?

    And as a final question if you care to entertain, why does Subaru constantly loan cars to be tracked for magazines, build rally/track inspired cars, than say it will not cover you if you track or race it?!? Subaru even gave out free memberships for 1 year on the 04 model for SCCA events. what message does that send to the consumer? Yes Sports Compact, Modified Tuner, and Import Tuner can run these cars ragged for a few laps, even loan them out for year long studies and cross country trips, yet your damned if you do. It can at times be very frustating knowing that, you bought the car because of its capabilities, yet feel like walking on eggshells if you take it to the track for a little session. My gripe is mainly with SOA on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mega160 View Post
    clayton I have a question(or two) that maybe you could clear up since maybe someone else might be curious. Why is it some dealerships are more inclined to be "mod friendly" as opposed to others. what benefit or lack there off, does the dealership have to be mod friendly? the reason i ask is because ive seen on the boards how some dealerships even sell COBB parts, and recommend a COBB tune, because im sure you as well as everybody else who has ever grazed a Subaru forum knows its common knowledge how bad the stock tune is.

    From a consumers prespective it would all make so much sense an be so reassuring knowing that we can atleast have a stage 1, knowing full well how lean the GR models run(that 08 model was something scary) and have full confidence our dealership has our back. Wouldnt that reduce the cat and mouse game between service managers trying to stick it to the little guy who just baught your 35-40k car in good faith, and consumers who just want to have a car they have confidence in will not run lean on their first track session. Has anyone brought up the idea to SOA about a partnership with COBB kinda like Mugen and Honda?

    And as a final question if you care to entertain, why does Subaru constantly loan cars to be tracked for magazines, build rally/track inspired cars, than say it will not cover you if you track or race it?!? Subaru even gave out free memberships for 1 year on the 04 model for SCCA events. what message does that send to the consumer? Yes Sports Compact, Modified Tuner, and Import Tuner can run these cars ragged for a few laps, even loan them out for year long studies and cross country trips, yet your damned if you do. It can at times be very frustating knowing that, you bought the car because of its capabilities, yet feel like walking on eggshells if you take it to the track for a little session. My gripe is mainly with SOA on this.
    I hear ya man, it is a little silly that they build and advertise the cars as track ready, even going so far as to put summer performance tires on the newer models to get better grip on the skidpad in magazine tests, and then they tell you not to put it on the track at all or mod it. I wish I had a solid answer for you on this, but its kind of a gray area in my experience... I mean I can totally understand why people are scared to mod their car, and officially on paper you aren't allowed to, but I really don't see dealers giving people a hard time in the real world as long as were talking about some light bolt ons and a cobb tune, basically up to stage 2... At the end of the day the dealer gets paid to do the work, so we want to honor everyone's warranty that we can. Of course there is a fine line of what your going to get away with vs what you won't, but I've really never heard of a dealer actually interrogating a customer about if they have ever done an autocross with the car or anything like that. Of course I'm sure we can all understand why SOA doesn't want you monkeying around under the hood not knowing what you're doing and then coming for warranty work after your ebay turbo goes bad. We can all understand why they don't want you on the racetrack pushing the limits with your car on sunday and at the dealer for resulting repairs on monday, abuse is abuse. Anyone who has ever raced knows that it's just a matter of time before you break something. But spirited driving/ autocross is different, the car is made for that if you ask me... Cobb tunes are different, they improve the car and are pretty much foolproof to install correctly. I think they should allow autocross personally since you could reach those speeds on public roads anyway and runs are short. I also think they should allow stage 2 mods by certain reputable companies like cobb and perrin. Unfortunately that's not going to happen anytime soon and I doubt subaru is interested in partnering with cobb or perrin etc considering that they already sell their own SPT stuff. At the end of the day this has a good deal to do with the mentality of the service manager at the dealership in question. At my dealership for instance more than half the employees drive modded cars, and the manager is a 'vette freak who loves hot rods, modded muscle cars, etc. so we are pretty cool about this stuff, but at some other places they might be the stick in the mud types. All I can say is unless your car is heavily modded or you're acting like a **** to the service staff, your chances of having an issue with warranty are slim to none. It will certainly help if you are a loyal customer to that service dept and have a good relationship with them, that is one thing I must stress. Anyway even if you do get declined by that one rare dealer who is a hard ass, there are always more subaru dealers and someone is most likely gonna squeak you through. If all else fails call me up and I'll see if I can help you.
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