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    Option 1 or 4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wrx wagone View Post
    Option 1 or 4.
    Thanks JR,

    I like that that is also the path of least resistance financially and for effort.

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    I almost always saw some caster cross, usually was in the .2-.3 range, I don't think a 1/2 degree is something I'd worry too much about

    I am surprised you didn't see a little more than you did, could be the caster sweep they did wasn't perfect????

    I'd say install the Com C's and see what you get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Sky WRX View Post
    I almost always saw some caster cross, usually was in the .2-.3 range, I don't think a 1/2 degree is something I'd worry too much about

    I am surprised you didn't see a little more than you did, could be the caster sweep they did wasn't perfect????

    I'd say install the Com C's and see what you get.
    I'd have to say I'm leaning that it wasn't accurate 100% but the only thing that sets me off a touch is that it felt a bit easier to pull the right arm down for the install and the bushing seemed to fight differently than the left when going on. I'm not clear on how they take the measurements and how much room for error there is, but I suppose if it is something that you can't adjust anyway I could see trying to make as quick work of it as possible as long as it looked in "spec" on the readout.


    I'm glad both experts agree on option 4 though as that is keeping with the previous plan and I already have the Com C's on the pile. But yeah, I'm just a touch bummed it isn't higher on both sides.

    Most people look like they have issues:

    Quote Originally Posted by WRXcelration View Post
    i just got an alignment today at Becker Subaru heres the specs


    Front

    Camber
    -0.4 ( -0.0) -0.4
    Caster
    3.0 ( -0.3) 3.3
    Toe
    0.01 -0.01

    Rear

    Camber
    -1.4 ( -0.3) -1.1
    Toe
    -0.00 ( -0.00) 0.00
    Total Toe = - 0.00
    Thrust Angle = - 0.00
    Quote Originally Posted by WRXdriftR View Post
    this is one sweet thread. Thanks Big Sky!

    my latest alignment with STi spec-C springs, Cusco 22mm RSB, Kartboy Rear endlinks, whiteline steering rack bushings:

    front camber: -1.0* both sides
    rear camber: -1.1 both sides
    front caster: 2.8/3.0
    front toe: -0.01* both sides
    rear toe: 0.01/ -0.01

    turn in is alot nicer now, noticeably less understeer
    Quote Originally Posted by Spencer3636 View Post
    Went back for my alignment and it looks pretty good

    F.L.
    Camber -0.8
    Caster 2.7
    Toe 0.00

    F.R.
    Camber -0.8
    Caster 3.2
    Toe 0.0

    R.L.
    Camber -1.5
    Toe 0.0

    R.R.
    Camber -1.7
    Toe 0.0

    Cross Camber 0.0
    Total Toe 0.01

    The only thing that is out of OEM spec would be my front left Caster, my cross caster is -0.5 and might explain my slight pull to the right, what can I do to even these out a bit?
    Last edited by mycologist; 01-11-2010 at 04:56 PM.
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    All Right. I'm putting these springs and inserts on today. Wish me luck!

    Only thing is I wish I had put more consideration into the bump stops. Apparently the ones RCE provided are for STi only. So I've been reading and reading. Assuming I have the long (118mm) rear ones, I plan to cut off one nub on both front and rear. This is given a predicted 25/~22mm drop. Is that reasonable? Which end to cut (I think bottom if that is the harder part on a WRX)?

    I'm interested to see what the actual drop will be as I haven't found any wagons on the regular guy springs. If it is 15mm/10mm F/R on an STi, plus ~10mm for WRX, plus a little more in the rear for wagons I'm guessing these drop nearly the same as the wagon version they discontinued. We shall see. I hope it is less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mycologist
    All Right. I'm putting these springs and inserts on today. Wish me luck!
    Good luck. What's the install beer you've got? What's your celebratory cigar?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EJ257 View Post
    Good luck. What's the install beer you've got? What's your celebratory cigar?
    Fronts are off and apart. Now for the drilling etc.. I think I would rather go to the dentist honestly so I am mustering some courage right now.

    I have some "raging *****" belgian style pale ale (holding off on that for now). I hadn't thought of a cigar - that's a fine idea. I'll have to mull over what I want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mycologist
    I have some "raging *****" belgian style pale ale (holding off on that for now).
    Why hold off? I've rarely had an install go smoothly, but at least if I'm ****faced, I laugh at all the complications I run across. Maybe that's why my short shifter and bushing install took me 5 hours to do...

    Quote Originally Posted by mycologist
    I hadn't thought of a cigar - that's a fine idea. I'll have to mull over what I want.
    Every part install starts with beers and ends with a cigar. I have never been able to decide on what cigar I want until the install is done, however.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EJ257 View Post
    Why hold off? I've rarely had an install go smoothly, but at least if I'm ****faced, I laugh at all the complications I run across. Maybe that's why my short shifter and bushing install took me 5 hours to do...



    Every part install starts with beers and ends with a cigar. I have never been able to decide on what cigar I want until the install is done, however.
    Yeah, I took your advice when I realized I bought a drill press bit and it didn't fit my electric drills. Luckily I had my great-grandfathers hand drill that held it. Fronts are hacked and drilled now
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    So far it is at 14.25" in the front compared to this morning it was at 15" -hard to measure that accurately though. It took a while to clean the bodies up to where I was satisfied but pretty leisurely all and all. I was going to go for a gratuitous pic but they look exactly like clean stockers except for the Com C on the top.

    Rears will be tomorrow.

    I tried this stuff "fluid film" I heard about from gun people. Amazing. It foams up on the rust somehow neutralizing it, leaves an awesome protective coating, darkens it up from the nasty orange, smells good, non-toxic, and makes your hands soft. IIRC it is lanolin based. I'm going to end up spraying everything under the car after seeing the results.
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    for bump stops- cut one "nub" from each- the small one, that should be just about right for that amount of lowering

    once you ride on Koni's you'll thank yourself for a job well done
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Sky WRX View Post
    for bump stops- cut one "nub" from each- the small one, that should be just about right for that amount of lowering

    once you ride on Koni's you'll thank yourself for a job well done
    Exactly what I did. Thanks to finding your thread on NASIOC....

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    Awe man...I'm so jealous right now. I wanna work on my car Looks like you're having a fun time and your car sounds amazing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drews View Post
    Awe man...I'm so jealous right now. I wanna work on my car Looks like you're having a fun time and your car sounds amazing
    Thanks

    It was actually more enjoyable than most of the other stuff I have done on it. No fiddly bits you have to twist for and no time on my back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mycologist View Post
    Thanks

    It was actually more enjoyable than most of the other stuff I have done on it. No fiddly bits you have to twist for and no time on my back.
    I really enjoy working on my car. I like the feeling of accomplishment when I'm finished.

    But right now I'm tired of looking at my long list of parts I can't touch yet.

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