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    Bizborky's Bag Build

    Hey gents,

    This is my first Subaru and I absolutely love it!

    2013 WRX sedan Dark metallic grey
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    Im coming out of the VW scene. This is my old car:
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    A bagged 2010 VW MK6 GTI

    Anyway, that was first bagged car (Installed and did all the work myself) & I vowed to never drive static low again.

    So with the new car comes a new project to bag this b*tch.
    I realize for alot of guys bagging a WRX is sacrilegious. but, I love the functionality and the ability to be low.

    My intention for the build is to keep it clean combining JDM OEM+ items and a little euro cleanliness.

    I kept all the management from the old car to include tank, manifold, controller, compressor etc.

    So far here is the break down of what I have or have on order:

    Interior:
    GRFXP.com Fat Shift Knob (Titanium Finish)
    LED White Interior Lights

    Exterior:
    PIAA Arrow Star White 4250K 55W H11 Lowbeam Bulbs
    Nokya Yellow 2500k 65W 9005 DRL/Highbeam Bulbs
    Nokya Yellow 2500k 55W 9006 Fog Light Bulbs
    OEM Subaru STI Foglights w/Yellow Lamin-X Overlay Film
    Hella Horns (White) w/Subimods Bracket & Harness
    LED White License Plate Lights

    Air Suspension:
    Airlift v2 air ride digital controller and manifold
    Airlift performance slam Gen 3 Front and rear air struts (On Order)
    VIAR 444C compressor w/Parker Water-Trap
    5 Gallon Steel Air Tank (Probably going to change to an aluminum tank)

    Performance
    N/A (YET)

    And here are some weak Cellphone pics to get the thread started...I will update with better pictures. (expect a hiatus in January till around the end of march as I will be at Ranger school)

    Day I picked her up
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    First parts in the mail: Bulbs & license plate frame
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    PIAA Plasma Ion Yellow DRL/Highbeam Bulbs installed
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    V2 Air ride digital controller location & shift knob
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    looks great! i'm coming from a mkv which is the same chasis (for all you guys who didn't know).. hoping to purchase a '13 hatch early next year, how do you like the transition?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bizborky View Post
    but, I love the functionality
    Annnnnd here is where you'll find the point of contention with most wrx owners on this board.

    But to each their own! Just want to prepare you for the inevitable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kian View Post
    looks great! i'm coming from a mkv which is the same chasis (for all you guys who didn't know).. hoping to purchase a '13 hatch early next year, how do you like the transition?!
    It's great! Much more of a drivers car, not as comfortable but in a good kinda racekor way haha. But I love the motor. Sooo much more lively then the gti even with stage 2.

    Quote Originally Posted by Calvinball View Post
    Annnnnd here is where you'll find the point of contention with most wrx owners on this board.

    But to each their own! Just want to prepare you for the inevitable.
    I'm talking about functionality concerning being low and still being able to deal with normal everyday road obstacles. I understand their argument, and I agree but I don't track my car. And the spirited driving I do, do certainly doesn't push the car beyond being on bags.




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    Hey dude, I just found out you sold the GTI for the WRX. I currently have an MK6 and saw your build thread on vortex. I'm thinking of getting the WRX also but the hatchback. What's your initial impression of the changes? And also, if you don't mind, how much does the monthly payment change?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zax View Post
    You do know that you will need an alignment every time you adjust your ride height, correct?
    Meh... Not like a serious amount of toe in/out ever hurt anything, right? Only excessive tire wear, poor steering centering, and vehicle instability.

    FYI - ride height does effect toe (and camber) in our cars. Toe being much more significant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vREx View Post
    Hey dude, I just found out you sold the GTI for the WRX. I currently have an MK6 and saw your build thread on vortex. I'm thinking of getting the WRX also but the hatchback. What's your initial impression of the changes? And also, if you don't mind, how much does the monthly payment change?
    The car isn't as luxurious as the GTI but it really isn't supposed to be. The clutch took some getting used to compared to the VW. Its a lot more sporty and "direct" feeling.
    My favorite thing is probably that you are more connected to the driving experience with the WRX. The GTI's computer and electronic systems "nerf" the fun a little.

    Quote Originally Posted by zax View Post
    You do know that you will need an alignment every time you adjust your ride height, correct?
    This isn't my first bagged car. I am aware, you set your ride height get your alignment and take it from there. The V2 digital management will ensure the ride height is 99% the same every time

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    Meh... Not like a serious amount of toe in/out ever hurt anything, right? Only excessive tire wear, poor steering centering, and vehicle instability.

    FYI - ride height does effect toe (and camber) in our cars. Toe being much more significant.
    It the same way with the GTI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heide264 View Post
    Meh... Not like a serious amount of toe in/out ever hurt anything, right? Only excessive tire wear, poor steering centering, and vehicle instability.

    FYI - ride height does effect toe (and camber) in our cars. Toe being much more significant.
    It the same way with the GTI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bizborky View Post
    This isn't my first bagged car. I am aware, you set your ride height get your alignment and take it from there. The V2 digital management will ensure the ride height is 99% the same every time
    If you are only changing ride height to avoid road obstacles here and there, then there isn't much to worry about if they air suspension does as it claims. Its when you change the ride height for an entire season or long drive that concerns me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heide264 View Post
    If you are only changing ride height to avoid road obstacles here and there, then there isn't much to worry about if they air suspension does as it claims. Its when you change the ride height for an entire season or long drive that concerns me.
    This is all very true. But the air ride is really just for that: Avoiding obstacles (speedbumps, harsh driveways etc.)

    Like I said I had this exact set up on my GTI and there are other bagged Subaru out there. If I do raise it up for the winter, or something like that, then I will be sure to take it to get an alignment just like I would if I spun the coils up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bizborky View Post
    This is all very true. But the air ride is really just for that: Avoiding obstacles (speedbumps, harsh driveways etc.)

    Like I said I had this exact set up on my GTI and there are other bagged Subaru out there. If I do raise it up for the winter, or something like that, then I will be sure to take it to get an alignment just like I would if I spun the coils up.
    The band wagon is a frowned upon justification.

    I'd very much caution against raising it upwards for long periods of time given your justification. These cars are commonly set up with very minor amounts of toe (unlike in a fwd car normally that requires more toe in to be 'stable') upfront... and raising/lowering the car is enough to point the wheels outwards. While toe out may feel good for a rwd car at the track (improves your turn in feel) you lose your "auto centering" steering feeling. On a track car, you are always paying attention. On a road car, you don't want to lose that. I need to get mine re-aligned after fixing my camber bolts currently, and its quite annoying to not have that.

    Same argument goes for coils. You shouldn't be spinning them up. You should spin them up/down to get your ideal ride height (governed by the suspension geometry - not looks ideally... but that's forgivable) and leave them there. The benefits are numerous as it seems you are aware.

    It's just sorta silly to see people changing the suspension geometry of these cars so much. It defeats so much of the purpose and you are losing a lot of the character of the car. 12" wide wheels or wheels that stick out of the fender well fall into the same boat here.
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