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This is a discussion on Sinister's Progress Thread within the Builds forums, part of the Tech & Modifying & General Repairs category; Originally Posted by MainFrame I don't think the OEM pickups are even welded where they tend to fail, they're brazed.. ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MainFrame View Post
    I don't think the OEM pickups are even welded where they tend to fail, they're brazed.. cheap bastards.
    Sorry, yes... you're correct. They tend to crack several mm away from the joint, because the steel tube is thin and brittle. You can see from the bluing they overheated the part while brazing it and allowed it to become too brittle by letting it cool too quickly. Piss-poor workmanship.
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    You folks are the first I've heard of this. I'm going to have to do some Nasioc research, because I don't believe I've seen any high hp cars that I've noticed an aftermarket oil pickup on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fahr_side View Post
    They tend to crack several mm away from the joint, because the steel tube is thin and brittle. You can see from the bluing they overheated the part while brazing it and allowed it to become too brittle by letting it cool too quickly. Piss-poor workmanship.

    This is exactly it! They always crack away from the actual joint, and the coloration makes it clear that the tubes have been way overheated. Which is funny, because you don't have to get something that hot to braze.




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    Quote Originally Posted by MainFrame View Post
    I don't think the OEM pickups are even welded where they tend to fail, they're brazed.. cheap bastards.
    Yes, they are brazed (forgot that)...complete crap. They do it because it is cheap.

    I actually had a metal shop class in HS and learned how to weld (mostly spot welding and I think arc welding, cannot remember if we did any mig or tig welding). Welded car parts for the autoshop class and our teacher was and expert at it. Been a long time since I have welded anything (over 12 years) and I am sure I would suck at it now.
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    It sounds like this issue is few and far between... I'm not 100% as to whether or not I'm going to do this.
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    I'm going to be getting an ej257 pan, KillerB ultimate pickup, and KillerB windage tray in the future.. it's just good insurance. Besides, I have actually seen my OEM pickup suck air when cornering before, so I know it's something I need to get done before long.

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    you've seen the pickup suck air? How...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinister View Post
    you've seen the pickup suck air? How...
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    Oil pressure gauge.. I took a corner, and the needle dived about 20psi. I guess I didn't physically see it suck air, but I knew the bubble was there, being forced through my bearings. The ej205 pan is so flat and shallow the oil sloshes side to side when cornering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MainFrame View Post
    Oil pressure gauge.. I took a corner, and the needle dived about 20psi. I guess I didn't physically see it suck air, but I knew the bubble was there, being forced through my bearings. The ej205 pan is so flat and shallow the oil sloshes side to side when cornering.
    Ya the 2.5L oil pans EJ255/EJ257 are a better design that allow better flow and a better baffle (windage tray), which allow the oil pickup to gain more access to the oil. Also, I believe the KillerB oil pickup also sits a bit lower in the pan again increasing its ability to gather oil.

    Pretty much All subarus are made with the crappy oil pickup, so it is a great upgrade IMHO.

    Here is a great thread on differences between oil pans:

    WRX oil pan vs STi oil pan

    If you want the highlights and most of the info skip to post #36, but the entire discussion is a good one.
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    Back on it...

    Installed the KB Botox Bolts the other day. Definitely got rid of the bang between hard shifts. Thank goodness.
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    trying to decide between 20gxt and 20gxtr
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    I had a motor go down on a broken pick up. I watched my defi oil gauge twitch a few times and whammm..

    I am running a killerbee pick up, pan and cosworth windage tray on my cosworth motor.
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    So is it a good idea to take your brazed pickup and put a weld on it or just get an aftermarket unit all together?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinister View Post
    I actually have summers right now... missed that. Updated
    How do you like those Hankook? I'm thinking of picking some up as my tires are toast. Those seem to be my best bet, good ratings and cheap.

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